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411man
03-20-2007, 04:08 PM
In US vs Miller the US Supreme Court took note of the following:

"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession
or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches
in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the
preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot
say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear
such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice
that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or
that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v.
State, 2 Humphreys (Tenn.) 154, 158."

and

"The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from
the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of
Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators.
These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males
physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. "A
body of citizens enrolled for military discipline." And further,
that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to
appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in
common use at the time."

Now the question is, Do full-automatic Assault Weapons and / or Semiautomatic Assault Weapons qualifiy as "....And further,
that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to
appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in
common use at the time." or if one prefers Militia Weapons? If so, the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and any other ban or constriction to the availability of Militia Weapons would be Un-Constitutional per US vs Miller ( see quotes above).

So if any type of weapon could be considered Exempt from Second Amendment protection it would be "Sporting Weapons".

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Here is the liknk to this case: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/miller.txt

funfaler
03-20-2007, 04:13 PM
You may be right, but Big Brother will never see it that way. The Second is dead along with the rest of that parchment. It only lives because we still have our arms, without them, we are all out right slaves of the state, thus the big push to eliminate our perception that we have "rights". The US is rushing head long to a purging, just a matter of if it will be the Liberty minded folks or the Tyrants that will be purged.

I wonder what Oprah or Dr. Phil have to say about this:rolleyes:

MdlMkr 7.62
03-21-2007, 09:38 PM
Yeah, Do you really want to be a "test case"? Even if you win you'll lose everything in legal costs. :confused:

7.62 :eek:

witchdoctor
03-28-2007, 11:02 PM
Ahhh this is truly bad times for all gun owners. Our rights are severely threatened by many politicians and liberals. I am a member of Grass Roots of NC for Firearms Education. We get all the emails with any new or bill that will hurt our rights. They are trying to ban guns anywhere near a "playground" in NC. This will mean if you stop at the McDonalds for a biscuit on the way to a hunting trip you will be in violation if they have a "playground" on premises.