survival story in oregon

[mrrk1562]

..i think we all saw what happened last week in oregon to a family that took a wrong turn and its aftermath ..in good tast id like to see what any of us might have did or not did ....for me i think i might of stayyed with the car ..as there was shelter ..there was water ..there was wood for burning ..there was habitate for wild game like rabbits which with the snow on the ground you would been able to locate some kind of trap ..i dont know all the facts to this story ..i'm not holding in judgement what this man tried to do for his family ..he did what thought was best from where he was standing ..lets see where this goes and lets remember someone family lost their father and husband ..this realy happened..

[jerrymrc]

They were not prepared in any way shape or form. It is tragic but if they would have followed the basics that apply to any wintertime travel they would have been just fine. There are postings about what to carry in your car in the winter. I live in Colorado but grew up in Oregon. All the man had for shoes was a pair of sneakers!

It is not that hard to make up a kit. It does not take up allot of space. I have a regular cab PU and behind the seat I have all I need for a couple of weeks or so. Some items change with the area your going to be in IE here in the mountains in the winter there is allot of snow, water is not a problem. Off the top of my head.

7 bottles of water
1 fire extinguisher
jumper cables
tool kit
first aid kit
4+ MRE's in coffee can w/heaters
Bag of hard candy
6'x10' tarp
2 space blankets
1 sleeping bag
3 long burning candles
10 instant 12 hour heaters
LED flashlight/with extra batteries
3 road flares
1 blanket
work gloves
tow strap
E-tool
firestarter/magnesium
roll of TP in zip-loc

This all fits behind my seat with room to spare. I may have missed something. The wife has just about the same in her van. There is no need to die if your car has slid off the road and there are no injury's.

[Palerider]

It looks like the 3 climbers on Mt. Hood are not going to make it.
They just announced that one climber was found in a second snow cave dead, and sleeping bags and ice axes were found abandoned in the first cave they dug.

Does anyone know if Mt. Hood is volcanic?

[mrrk1562]

now why would you leave something like a sleeping bag behind and your ice axe ..tools that just might save your life

[Jonas Parker]

now why would you leave something like a sleeping bag behind and your ice axe ..tools that just might save your life

One of the symptoms of hypothermia is mental confusion.

[powermad]

The best survival tool is common sense.

Not to be cruel or uncaring but neither party showed any as far as I can see.

Turning off the main road onto a gated (don't care if it was open they all have signs) logging road is just dumb.

Trying to be extreme by climbing a mountain you have never climbed before in the middle of winter with no supplies or locating devices is just dumb.

[Dr. X]

This all fits behind my seat with room to spare. I may have missed something. The wife has just about the same in her van. There is no need to die if your car has slid off the road and there are no injury's...


I'd have trouble stayin' outta the hard candy...:D

as ever,
Dr. X :cool:

[fry]

Does anyone know if Mt. Hood is volcanic?

it is the most active volcano in the cascades

[Another Terry]

They were skilled climbers who, in my opinion, made two serious mistakes:

1. They should have prepared for the worst case situation, which did actually play out. They were stranded above 10K feet. Had they prepared to "hunker down" their chances would have been improved.

2. They should have carried a radio becon.

Mt. Hood in the Spring time is dangerous, avalanche danger is always present, as well as falling through a crevass, or off the mountain.

IMO, they need to close off the mountain in Winter PERIOD. The risk to rescue personnel is too great.

Terry...