What long gun and sidearm would you want to survive? post pics

[Zombie_Hunter]

So I was thinking the other day...What rifle and pistol would I want if I were having to bug out on foot. I'm thinking the 20" AR and the M9
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Then again I might want to stay in the area......
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What about you guys?

[bsdmon]

british l1a1 and a threaded hk usp .45 with a silencer. i have the l1a1 still working on the usp.

[BobJr59]

It all depends where I'm at and if on foot or motor veh. if on foot I would either My FN G-1 or My Bushmaster AR 308 Booth use the same mags and My 1911 in 45 or HI Power with either a 38SPL or 380 for backup
Short range House 2 House 9MM UZI W/4 32 round and 6 50 round mags for UZI Hi Power w 3-13round and 5-20 round mags and a box of 500 rounds
Marlin Camp Rifle in 45acp and 1911 w/ 15 8round mags 250 in box
either 1 of above I would want to carry either a M48 8MM or 30/06 w 300 rnds
m-4 in 5.56 6-30 round mags 600 rounds loose

[Imaexpat2]

Im thinking my L1A1 and 1911. I have many other choices...but this I think would be the go to two!

[SniperBait]

I would want maximum firepower from a rifle. The only choice would be the M1A. Thinking of the long term. Should any of the majority of parts fail. You can still shut off the gas valve and fire as a 20 rnd straight pull bolt action. When Mr Murphy ejects the extractor. The M1A is the only MBR that lets you easily dig the case out of the chamber with your knife.

They say AK's are the ultimate in reliable. Maybe, but seems to me that the commie block and turd world nations never had much regard for the lives of their infantry. :confused:


Unless you plan on shooting every person you see, after SHTF. The only choice for a handgun is one of the S&W five shot hammerless snubbies. Which you will keep wrapped in fist. In your front coat pocket. When someone steps out in-front of you, or you ask someone, "What time the food riot starts?" You will already have him covered. The hammerless snubbies will fire all five from inside your pocket with no problem. Surprise = advantage

Not to mention the snubbies usefulness as a bushwhackers tool.


A battle pistol is fun and cool to shoot. Fifteen-eighteen shots mean nothing if you need to "slap leather" against someone with the advantage against you.

[Dr. X]

This is an easy one...FAL and 1911A1! :cool:

as ever,
Dr. X

[Halffast]

While I don't think my selections are the only choices, I have given them significant thought.

For a rifle, I would pick my DSA Tac Carbine. It is not much heavier than an AR and if I'm out on my own, I want the penetration of the .308 round.

To me, a pistol is more of a personal choice. Whatever someone is comfortable carrying and shoots well should be the primary considerations. After all, a handgun is a marginal man stopper and should only be used to fight your way to your rifle according to the late Col. Cooper. The pistol you're most likely to see strapped to my hip, although I love 1911's, is a Glock 21. I don't know why, but I just shoot this pistol better than any others I own. Plus, I don't worry about it getting dirty or scratched up. The 13 round mags don't hurt my feelings either. That's just my $.02 worth and YMMV.

David

[FN74]

Glock 17, FN74 and CAR15 depending on when and where....

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[akfanatic]

WAAAAAY back in the day I knew this guy who owned 3 guns; and only 3.
A Remy 870, an AK and a Browning High Power 9mm.
He said that there was nothing he could not do with these weapons; nothing…

To this day I don’t know if he was right but I do know that he was a smart man…

As for me, I cant answer this question as there are too many factors involved (ammo, geography etc…) but if pressed I would want a .30cal rifle backed by a .45cal pistol.

[Goldenspurholderx2]

This is easy, I don't have any functional firearms right now except my sporterized 1903 hunting rifle. My CCW pistol built on a Caspian Officer receiver topped with a Caspian Commander slide is waiting for me to fit the barrel. My FAL is waiting for some KG GunKote. I have some pictures of when I had it assembled for test fire, these don't include pictures of the Night Force scope I have for it or the 1" raise in comb I did to the butt stock with a combination of plastic and bondo. Here is what I've got from pictures of the progress.
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I have heard comments about this is what you get when the military turns an armorer loose in the real world. Most everything about this rifle is custom so it takes a little longer to tweak everything and get it right, the effort is worth it.

[sparkky]

too many variables for me to say definately till I'm in that situation.

[BRONZE]

Not a FAL

probably a AR 5.56 and a Glock 9mm

[Goldenspurholderx2]

Not a FAL

probably a AR 5.56 and a Glock 9mm

C'mon man, they won't kick you off arf.com for saying a dude has a neat tricked out FAL!:)

[Dr. X]

Each to his own. Takes all kinds to make a World...:cool:

as ever,
Dr. X

[W.E.G.]

Nice looking rifles.

But, if you are talking about "bugging out on foot," I think you first need to specify the conditions that caused you to bug out, the area in which you will be "bugging," how far you intend to "bug," and who will be "bugging" with you.

[Colt]

mine, minus my Chris Reeve Mk IV--it's in the truck, and I'm not going out in the rain to go get it

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DSA stainless 16"/Aimpoint Comp 3
Springfield 5" PX9019 or whatever designator they gave a park'd Loaded model
Les Baer Stinger

My wife's gear

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Colt 6920/Eotech 552
Beretta 92FS
Kimber Ultra CDP
Gerber Silver Trident

[Carters Cavalry]

Springfield Armory M1A, Remington 700PSS in .308, a "reach out and touch someone gun" plenty of .308 ball and some .308 Armor piercing, a 16" AR15 .223 for the wife w/ ball and AP. Couple of Mossberg 590's USMC configurations. Several .45 governments and .45ACP wheel gun. Several .22 variants. A strong crossbow and wrist rocket slingshot with lot's of ball bearings. Oh yes, a Marlin 45-70 brush gun. The law is starting to carry those. They can do a number on cars, etc...

Stick to weapons which require as few calibers as possible on hand.

So I was thinking the other day...What rifle and pistol would I want if I were having to bug out on foot. I'm thinking the 20" AR and the M9. Then again I might want to stay in the area......
What about you guys?

[adamweinerog]

Fal and 1911 and yes, I am completely biased!

[montana bound]

hard choice, since i only have 3 guns, FAL, 12 gauge and my 1911 im not sure which one id leave.

can i bring all 3?

[Swamp Rat]

Man, I thought I found a SURVIVAL FORUM not a repell the zombies forum.

If you had to survive (not kill zombies) are you going to use that .308 MBR to kill bunnies/tree rats/deer to eat? Please don't get me wrong I have several FALs and a couple AR's and a mountain of ammo to feed them BUT when push comes to shove and I am surviving I will be toting a 1894CP in .357 and either a GP100 or a Ruger BV in the same caliber. I have dialed in a full house 185gr round that drops hogs and deer(and most anything else less than 250lbs) in it's tracks. I also have a 92gr round that it just the ticket for tree rats and other small critters. The little round shoots almost same hole groups out to 40yrds before opening up and the 185gr round groups at 1 1/2" @100yrds.

In a SURVIVAL situation the game of the day will be E&E not head out to the woods with a full battle load.

Flame away, just my 11cents(two cents adjusted for inflation)

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[medicmike]

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After a divorce, a marriage and a couple moves I am down to my basic battery of an R1 on an Imbel, Mossberg 590, 1911 and a bolt action 22 lr. That should cover the bases for anything I might run into.

[MdlMkr 7.62]

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7.62

[yarro]

If I was in really open Terrain (300+ yards being very common), then I would go with a scoped M1A or HK91 with quick detach mount and a DR optic on the scope in case I had to engage close. If I was recoil sensitive I would build a SPR AR clone and shoot heavy bullets, i.e. 77gr. Nothing bad about putting a suppressor on it if legal to own in your neck of the woods. A 6.5 grendel or 6.8SPC would be fine too.

If I was in an urban or heavily wooded environment with 300 yards being a rare shot with lots of cover, I would go with a 16-18" barreled FAL or short M1A. If I was recoil sensitive, I would go with a AR with SS109, 7.62 AK or 5.45 AK using surplus that has penetrators. Nothing bad about putting a suppressor on it if legal to own in your neck of the woods.

For a handgun, I would take anything that I was comfortable shooting. In my case, that would be one of my Glocks. Don't go crazy caring extra ammo for the side arm. For adding to the pot, I would take a .22 pistol, supressed if legal in yor area. I carry my side arm in a safepacker full flap holster to protect it as much as possible from damage. From experience, having to replace the rear site on your sidearm after smashing it flat on a rock going prone during training is inconvenient. Doing that during a SHTF situation could mean your death.

If in my BOV with bug out trailer, I would add my riot gun, .22 rifle, deer rifle/counter sniper rifle. Along with dupes of my BOGs that I am carrying.

The best thing about the AR platform is that you can buy more than one upper and swap them to meet possible changing tactical needs. Whatever you pick you should be able to put 5 shots into 3" at 100 yards for the 300 yard or less senario with your chosen ammo to give a 10" or less at 300. 2" or less with your ammo for the 300+ yard senario to give you 10" or less at 500. Very few people are much of a threat over 500 yards unless you are stationary and standing facing them.

-Yarro

[Andy the Aussie]

Not that they are options for me here but.....

SLR with optics and either a BHP or Glock 19.

Andy

Realistically if the world fell apart tomorrow it would be a custom Sako 308 and a 1911, 686 or Glock 17 (I have all of these).

Andy

[GOVT1911]

I'd say I'd have to go with an AR and some type of 9mm. Probabally a 16" M4gery and a glock 17. this is for ammo availability reasons and what I'm comfortable with. The Glock should have no problems going BANG when I need it to and I'm more comfortable with the AR than any other long gun. Yes, I'm giving up some muzzle velocity with the shorter barrel, but I figure most of the shooting that needs to be done will be at 300 meters and less. Anything farther and I probabally should be running instead of shooting.

[Andy the Aussie]

Depending on the "situation" in which I found myself the Sako may get swapped for a Steyr SSG or a Winchester 94 Trapper (30/30).

[GOVT1911]

Andy,

So you have no problem having the levergun around? People would be surprised how handy they are and while not a "battle rifle", I wouldn't feel too badly if it was my go-to rifle due to political reasons.

I know I've asked this or similar questions before, but AU bans "military calibers", right? How difficult is it to get "civilian calibers" like .30-30? Can and do your reload? How are ammo prices there?

[Andy the Aussie]

I have a couple of lever guns... ;) "Military Calibres" are fine here mate...as long as they are .50 or smaller....:D I myself have two 308s (the Sako and SSG) as well as some older gear (303, 30/06, 6.5x55 etc). My next rifle will probably be a Remington 7615 in 5.56.

Ammo is a bit on the expensive side (as for the most part it is all imported) and I am set up to reload for most of my stuff. I don't so much these days however except for the .375H&H and .300Win Mag.

Andy:D

[Jezcruzen]

I separate the term survival and defense. You did say "survival", and limited it to "two" firearms.

I'd choose my 12ga Remy 870 w/ RemChoke and carry assorted shot shells and saboted slugs. For the second, it would most likely be by Browning Buckmark .22lr. I could feed myself very handily with these two as well as provide a minimum of defense as a secondary benefit.

[vomit]

I'd love to post a pic but can't get my head around it. My choice would be L1A1 (full barrel with Supressor) 5 shot 12 guage pump amd a 9mm CZ75.

2nd choice would be sks/skk/saiga derivative 7.62x39 + 12ga & CZ75

I make the choice with the availability of ammo in mind notwithstanding the available ordnance I own.

[vomit]

I'd love to post a pic but can't get my head around it. My choice would be L1A1 (full barrel with Supressor) 5 shot 12 guage pump amd a 9mm CZ75.

2nd choice would be sks/skk/saiga derivative 7.62x39 + 12ga & CZ75

I make the choice with the availability of ammo in mind notwithstanding the available ordnance I own.

Glock 17, FN74 and CAR15 depending on when and where....

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